The M+G+R Foundation
Regarding Non Consecrated Hosts
Being Given to the Innocent Faithful
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Back in 1992 God revealed to
miguel de Portugal, and then confirmed it in
a multitude of occasions in three countries, that unconsecrated hosts
were being distributed as
The purpose of this document is to publish in one single file the
correspondence that we have received, and responded to, in reference to
wherein we denounce
- with great
details - the use of non consecrated hosts in many Roman Catholic
@ USA - Published on
June 29th, 2005 [Feast
of Sts. Peter and Paul]
I went to Mass Saturday evening for the Vigil for Sunday. I was
watching carefully to be sure that all the vessels on the altar
containing the bread and wine to be offered were beneath the
priest's hands as he performed the Transubstantiation.
I believe I saw that, after Father transubstantiated the bread and wine
in the vessels before him, Deacon P went into the Tabernacle, removed
two gold bowls and placed them among the
others on the altar. Their contents were then part of what was offered
those receiving The Holy Eucharist.
My question is this:
Does the bread remain in the "Form" (of Our Lord) even though it may be
unused for a particular Mass and brought out at a later time or
need it be transubstantiated for each Mass?
Yes. The Eucharistic Presence of Our Lord continues to Be. However,
there seems to be a problem with that practice.
First of all - In accordance to the
Vatican Rules, most of the consecrated hosts given in a particular Mass
should have been
consecrated in that same Mass, except when conditions
simply prevent it, such as: Mass in St. Peter's Square or the esplanade
before the Basilica of Fátima and the like. Even though
thousands of hosts are consecrated then, the officiating minister must
rely on previously consecrated hosts for the communion of hundreds of
thousands of communicants.
Nevertheless, what concerns us the most is that we are witnessing the
practice that you have reported in far too many Masses where there is no need to do so
unless, of course, "the need" is to feed the Faithful unconsecrated
hosts. This, of course, would be in keeping with the times that
are living through. What better way for satan to mount a full and final
assault on those who try to remain strengthened by and through the
Bread of Heaven than by spiritual starving them?
Most homilies have become completely
; therefore, if to that absence one adds the
of the True Bread of Heaven... then, what is that you have left?
Nothing! - except the ever-present collection plate.
Our advice from here - and regardless who may get upset, the Roman
Curia included - is: (1) Attend Mass where you can be sure that the
consecration is being done
; and (2) That most hosts used in
communion were consecrated right at that Mass and before you own eyes.
Frankly - with some notable exceptions - we have very little trust in
the integrity of those who
today claim to be Shepherds for God's
From JM @ USA
on March 16th, 2008 [Palm
In reference to what appears
to be the preference of offering communion at Mass mostly from hosts
which are in reserve in the Tabernacle...
I was drawn to a document called
Norms Of the Diocese of Charlotte" and as I read the document I was
surprised to learn the following:
Norms (bold script is original, not my highlights)
Planning for the Mass should include providing for a sufficient number
of hosts to be consecrated so that all can receive hosts consecrated
during that Mass, underlining the connection between consecration and
communion. Generally, reserved hosts
should not be brought from the
tabernacle unless needed at a particular Mass. (1)
addresses the issue but works around the central question of the
status of the 'reserved hosts'...
If hosts are to be consecrated during the
Sacrifice of the Mass wherein they are to be consumed, why so many
"reserved hosts'? (2)
Have they been consecrated at
some previous Mass? Shouldn't by now any Parish could make informed
practical estimates on how many would be needed at a particular Mass
and thus avoid the "unless needed" and confusing issue of bringing out
and offering unconsecrated hosts?
example from the Diocese of Venice
These hosts are reserved for the sick
and for those who could not be present at the Mass.
From KH @ USA
on March 22nd, 2008 [Holy
Morning, dear Family,
you for your updates. Blessings and good wishes to you during
JM has experienced [See posting of March 16th above] in his church
be quite common for other churches in that diocese, in spite of what's
stated in the diocesan norms. I visit a half dozen or so
Charlotte churches on a regular basis, and have seen Communion
distributed exclusively from
the reserved hosts, and have also observed how these many hosts
have been questionably (in my mind) consecrated (1) during the Sunday Mass, because
of so many vessels on the altar and these so distanced from the
priest's extended hands during the Eucharistic prayers.
Even during daily Mass, when the consecration appears to be done
properly, the reserved hosts are often still withdrawn and distributed
by the Eucharistic minister, which leaves half of those present who may
not be receiving the true Body and Blood.
just feeling sad about this after the Mass attended for Palm Sunday
when I saw the above mentioned posting. I was planning to begin a
Novena today to the Blessed Mother in advance of the Annunciation,
so I think that I will pray that the Bishop will somehow enforce the
norms that are published for this diocese regarding the Holy
running out of options as to where to attend Mass in this area, but I
am sure our situation is not exclusive... and I will follow your
recommendations for this week and future, so as to not offend God any
further and to receive the benefits and graces that Jesus wished us to
have when He left us His Gifts.
From CB (1)
@ USA -
on January 9th, 2010
and again from CB....
The Epiphany on the Feast of the Epiphany
...should you want a title to my letter.
As I had some time to spare during my recent visit to New York City, I
decided to visit St. Patrick's Cathedral - where I had been baptized
and where I was a parishioner. Approaching the Cathedral I passed a
very famous world class jeweler, Cartier.
In addition to
holiday season decor in their windows, they had a sound system piping
Christmas Carols to the street.
When I passed it played - not Christmas carols - but rather the theme
to the film The Exorcist
Bells'). No joke. I
was rather taken aback and stopped to listen - it was for real.
We discussed the Cathedral security. It is worse than I described
some 12-15 security men were all around the inside of the building,
eying me suspiciously. Yet a mere handful of tourists were inside (30
in a building seating 3000). I felt I was being watched... and I was.
them and by more security cameras than I could count. All over the
place. I was filmed more in those 30 minutes then in all my life!
This was mid-morning on a sunny day, yet the building was so quiet
you could hear a pin drop. In contrast to previous years when it would
bustle with tourists whom you would have to push past to get to a pew.
The overall impression of the interior was dark, somber, tomb-like.
Reminding me more of a museum. The interior is white and brightly lit
by the stained glass alone. It appeared and "felt".... dark. The
phrase/concept "Hollywood stage set' flashed into my mind. All was its
usual very clean and well maintained state, yet something was now
different. Even from a few years ago.
Rather then the former experience of it being a house of prayer
weighed down by lovely works of art and excessive candle/statue
veneration... now it had been transformed (spiritually, not by
physical changes) into a a house of money, framed as a 'religious stage
set'. The comic idea of pushing it over as it was made of cardboard
came to mind. A stage set for the liturgy as a 'performance art' for
the consumption for the disoriented sheep. Run by the 'wolves' you have
alluded to... all carefully calculated.
All that was missing in this regard were the mechanically operated
idols of ancient pagan temples which would move, belch forth smoke,
'speak', etc... to keep the 'believers' believing, and enriching the
The Blessed Sacrament was in the Lady's Chapel, as it has been for
many years now. Only two other souls were there with me, praying. Yet I
was being observed by at least 2 security guards and 3 cameras (or
more....) in this small chapel. It had been recently and elegantly
restored. A very lovely 'stage set' was what came to mind.
While I cannot put into words what I felt, the impression of the
Tabernacle as "casa vacia"
was perceived. A lovely, but empty, work of art, completing the 'stage
of spiritual deception (as you have alluded to in reference the now
and universal deception of passing out mostly unconsecrated hosts as
Being aware of rather oppressive 'eyes' (like unseen yet very
real red, glowing eyes of salivating wolves observing prey while hidden
in a forest) observing me, I made a Spiritual Communion.
Making my way out, I made a point of observing all of the many side
altars and chapels (while being eyed and possibly followed). Most had
been well and expensively restored, via the gifts of OD, Knights of
Malta, et al, servitors of Mammon, as the
donor plaques noted. Two of them had been rebuilt as new shrines for
the veneration of statues, using pieces of altars ripped out of two of
the churches demolished by Cardinal Egan. They were a
hodgepodge of mismatched architectural salvage pieces assembled by
someone with no depth perception. Showy external 'piety' intended to
fool fools, concocted by someone reading the "Cliff Notes" version
of "Traditionalism for Dummies".
Shallow beyond belief.
One, in the former Baptistery, was a shrine to St. Jude - the patron
of lost causes. No comment... The other was a shrine to Polish
saints, in the former side altar of St. Casimir. Now including St.
Faustina and many 'others' then I could count, including their
Relics. It was visual, artistic and spiritual confusion - with the
seeming true point of focus
being the candle donation box.
Ironically these, along with the Gift Shop are what you first see, on
opposite side aisles, as you enter. All that was missing was a slot
At the back, where there formerly had been statues of Sts. Peter and
Paul, there were now portraits of Benedict/Ratzinger and Archbishop
Timothy Dolan. Enshrined as a Wal-Mart would have a portrait of
founder, Sam Walton. Quite befitting a temple of Mammon, masquerading
as a house of God.
I left, passing Cartier's again..... and their sound system played the
"Exorcist" theme again.
(1) We are
well acquainted with Mr. CB and we have never had any
reason to doubt the details and inside information he provides. His
profession, organist and organ restorer, caused him to work inside many
Cathedral and parishes in the East coast and at very close range of
Cardinals, Bishops and local priests.
From CB @ US - Published
on October 25th, 2010
Let's make sure that we know who we are praying to....
If I am your
friend, and well known to you personally, you might ask me for my help
in some matter, or to "put in
a good word" for you.
That is the basis of intercessory prayer with the
saints. Key to this is the concept that we are not "praying to
a saint, but rather requesting that they pray for
Mary always made this clear.
Many Catholics mistake the saint as the object
instead of a
helper and friend.
Asking the intercession of any saint is certainly proper, just as is
asking for the intercessory prayers of the souls in Purgatory
(as well as praying for them!).
Now, the thorny question is: What
is the result of 'asking the intercession of' (or praying to) a
soul which is neither in Heaven nor Purgatory?
The Devil 'hath power to assume a pleasing form'; and to grant favors
or even 'miracles' as if they were of God. All of this is to deceive
the unwary. (0)
But how would any Catholic fall into this trap?
First, let us look at the recent changes in the
"The office (of the Devil's
Advocate) was established in 1587 during the reign of Pope
Sixtus V and abolished by Pope John Paul II in 1983.
This reform changed the canonization process considerably, helping John
Paul II to usher in an unprecedented number of elevations: nearly 500
individuals were canonized and over 1,300 were beatified during his tenure as Pope as compared to only 98 canonizations by all his 20th-century predecessors, which has led many persons to
question the validity of the process and whether all of those canonized
today are deserving of the recognition....." (1)
The answer is: Many Catholics simply do not know any better, as
they are blindly accepting
every new 'Beati' or 'Saint' as 100% unquestionably legitimate. This
goes hand in hand with the conditioned response to 'blanket
upon which such Beatification and Canonizations rest... ...like the
proverbial 'house built on sand'.
have no right to judge the eternal destiny of a soul. Yet at the same
time, we are being asked to turn off our intuitive faculties as well as
our spiritual discernment (which is guided by the Holy Spirit of God).
Some questions are in order:
1) what if one is (innocently)
asking the intercession of someone presented as a 'saint', who is
neither in Heaven nor Purgatory? (i.e. in Hell)
2) what if one is (innocently) venerating the image/statue or relics of
the same alleged saint?
3) what if a church builds a shrine or side chapel honoring the same
4) what if priests and bishops say the votive mass or feast day mass of
the same alleged saint?
and 4 above have one meaning if the cleric who does such is ignorant of
reality, while they have quite another meaning if done knowingly (even
only by a select few...), nonetheless, both have the same net effect -
the glorification of evil.
This could be equated with the
global scam of distributing un-consecrated hosts for 'Holy Communion'.
It could also be done by both the knowing and the ignorant priest -
nonetheless, both have the same net effect: The next-to-the-ultimate
deception to the Faithful who unknowingly is receiving a false-host and
not receiving the true-host - the Living Christ.
Perhaps some of this is what Mary referred to in La Salette:
"In the year 1864, Lucifer together with a large number of
demons will be unloosed from hell; they will put an end to faith little
by little, even in those
to God. They will blind them in such a way, that, unless they are
blessed with a special grace, these people will take on the spirit of
these angels of hell; several religious institutions will lose all
faith and will lose many souls.
"Evil books will be abundant on
earth and the spirits of
darkness will spread everywhere a universal slackening in all that
concerns the service of God. They will have great power over nature:
there will be churches built
to serve these spirits. People will be
transported from one place to another by these evil spirits, even
priests, for they will not have been guided by the good spirit of the
Gospel, which is a spirit of humility, charity and zeal for the glory
of God. On occasions, the dead and the righteous will be
to life. (3)
The spiritual effects of items #'s 3 and 4 may
have something to do with what I have 'felt' and sensed in certain
churches and prominent Cathedrals. When this is combined with what may
either be the
continual or periodic absence of the Real Presence in the tabernacles
of these churches - a "different spirit' may be present in its stead.
(0) Under certain conditions
God will allow it.
(1) The "devil's
(2) About Infallibility
(3) Our Lady of La Salette
A. Thank you for sharing
your views and logic with us.
You have, through the Grace of God, "given flesh" to what our Heavenly
Mother warned us about in La Salette.
Our Lady of La Salette "keeps on talking" and
that is why She has so
many enemies in the sects and other fanatical elements within
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